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Sick of all this *#@%!! profanity!

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There was a moment when I was just a young lad, sitting and watching M.A.S.H. and enjoying the drama when something I'll never forget happened: Alan Alda cursed.

It was, in a way, life changing. I'd heard bawdy language before, of course. But this was someone on TV saying it. It was all official and stuff. Son of a [female canine] was something you could say on TV.

My exposure to profanity was probably like most people's. I heard it from my mom and her friends, mostly when they told risque jokes. I remember, after one particular group camping trip, trying to decipher what it was that made them laugh so hard and concluded it had to be the rude words because they were the only feature present in the jokes that differed from the one's I told.

I was later corrected. It may have had something to do with a joke I told the assembled adults that was in fact just a long string of blue language interrupted by a couple of "and then she said" clauses. I was told that these weren't nice words and you didn't use them if you were a kid.

But then, years later, I have to rectify this fact with the excellent delivery of Mr. Alda. Holy [excrement]! What a mind[fornication].

It was then that I understood that delicate use, profanity had a place in the daily lexicon. It was something to indicate emphasis, something that could show that you were serious or that the tone of conversation had moved beyond the formal and proper into the immediate and naked reality of whatever given situation.

When I started incorporating course language into my frequently used vocabulary, it took a while to find the appropriate level. I over did it at first, as kids tend to do with any new and effective mental tool, but over time I feel that I've come to use profanity less as a replacement for language and more as method for setting the mood of a particular conversation. I got my [poop] straight, [condemned by Deity] right.

But even if I say George Carlin's seven dirty words almost daily, I have to ask myself why mass media has failed to learn the lessons that I have.

I mean, I can understand South Park's [doodie] episode because they were making a point. But when Saturday Night Live decided in the 90's to exploit the fact that the FCC was okay with [glutius maximus] being said on air, they had to incorporate the three-letter four-letter word into every sketch. The show Deadwood used the word [fellatio expert] of an alarming frequency, but justified it with the setting; the same director was not able, I think to make the same case in his later series John From Cincinnati. Samuel L. Jackson has used the compound word [your father] so well that not only is it expected dialogue of virtually any role he's in, but that it's lost it's sting. And then, especially in the past year or two, there's the way that music uses profanity:

So if you're [angered to the point of urination] like me
[Lady curs], here's what you gotta do
Put your middle fingers up in the air
Go on and say "[Procreate] you!"

-I Hate My Life, Theory of a Deadman

I hate that song so much it chased me off my favorite radio station.

In an age where we've almost lost our collective sense of humor (if reaction to Janet Jackson's exposed nipple is any indication) I find it troublesome that I find myself horrified by profanity. I was thinking that by this point in American culture, we'd get over it and be able to recognize words for what they are; just words. They have power, yes, but it's what power you give them. And we give these words too much power, so much so that we feel hundreds of thousands of dollars are just punishment for their utterance.

But maybe the mass media is like me after the camping trip. Maybe they're just trying to find the level at which profanity is effective, not excessive. Perhaps we're at the top of the hill and soon will be rolling towards the maturity that will keep us from giggling at the word [see you next Tuesday] or mortified if our date cries out [anal aperture]. Perhaps we'll move beyond such words and expand our vocabularies to more creative expressions of displeasure, elation or confusion.

Though most likely, we'll just make up new ones.

I guess it's wrong to say I'm tired of profanity, but I am tired of it's over- and misuse. And I'm sure I'm not alone, but as long as comedians can get a laugh off of a single [penis/cranium] I may have to be convinced. Either way, I hope that we as a culture figure out when to use and when to not use such language not only to keep from debasing the language as a whole, but also to preserve the impact a well placed swear word can deliver.

And also so lyricists will stop being so [sexual penetration] lazy and I can get my [forsaken by Jesus], [maternally inclusive copulating] radio station back. [Mouth to genital contact providing] [Illegitimate sons].

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Reading over my examples, it dawns on me that this rant has been building for a decade.

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Reply#1 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:52 AM EDT
{"commentId":7719406,"authorDomain":"courts"}

If it took ten years to gain such clarity, it was well worth the wait.

I don't get the "bad words" thing; I think Carlin had it right. But I do think that society as a whole has gotten stuck in the early-adolescent mentality. They overuse profanity with the enthusiasm of a child rather than the grace of an adult.

I fully expect that we'll get calls from the principals and teachers when junior uses the "improper" language he will most certainly pick up from his parents (and their friends) and for which he will not be chastized by said role-models. I'm figuring that his daddy, Uncle Jeremy, and Uncle Stef can deal with that.

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#1.1 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":7735882,"authorDomain":"gregziglar"}

Lordfluffy, great article, I enjoyed reading it.

I'll admit to profanity on occasion, and when used sparingly, it is effective in my opinion. My acquaintances get my message loud and clear.

But that's exactly to your point.

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    #1.2 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:32 AM EDT
    {"commentId":7745843,"authorDomain":"tyler"}

    Really good piece, but what's this one?

    [forsaken by Jesus]
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    #1.3 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:37 PM EDT
    {"commentId":7746671,"authorDomain":"LordFluffy"}

    The same as [condemed by Deity].

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    #1.4 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:22 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":7720081,"authorDomain":"shondra-cmt"}

    Well written. I' ve heard some of these stories in person over the years, and some translate well to the written word; some work better in bardic tradition. But overall, I'm glad it's here for discussion and i think it's rather well done.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how this pulled apart technically.

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    Reply#2 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:57 PM EDT
    {"commentId":7720719,"authorDomain":"barkinhound"}

    Nice Lil Ol Essay there pard.

    I've spent most of my life in the trades and hangin with loggers, cowboys and various other economic bottom dwellers such as meself. Profanity is a fine art in my world and bothers me not.

    I'll tell you what I have oft related to my daughter as she has growed up. These words are not bad words. The only bad words are those that do harm, humiliation and hurt on a personal level. As in insult and name callin, derogatory terminology and such. Anyhow, these so called bad words are but descriptive terms. More than likely there are better ones to use but sometimes they fit to a T. However, they are considered impolite words and should be used in moderation and only within the context of where they fit. That's about it.

    Anyhow, enjoyed yer rant.

    Best atcha

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    Reply#3 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:24 PM EDT
    {"commentId":7724580,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}

    Y'all may want to consider joining this new group o' mine debuting tomorrow.

    Please read the group rules carefully as it's an every Friday-only thang.

    http://@!$%#edup.newsvine.com/

    I would have linked it, but the gd mf-ing link thing is f-ing broken again.

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    Reply#4 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:16 PM EDT
    {"commentId":7727642,"authorDomain":"ddickinson-1"}

    Beautifully written, awesome use of words:)

    I agree with your general idea, overuse takes the sting out of the words. Lenny Bruce's whole deal was based on this He thought if we all walked around calling each other derogatory names and swearing at each other within a generation there would be no verbal way to insult people.

    But I tend to agree with what you said "We'll just make up new ones." People like to be mean.

    I rarely use profanity. So rarely, that when I do, people who know me sit up and pay attention. They recognize it for what it is: a warning. Like the rattles on a snake.

    Hard to make that point if your everyday conversation consists of ......well, I can't use those words here, can I?

    Nice rant Lordfluffy.

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      Reply#5 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:24 PM EDT
      {"commentId":7727676,"authorDomain":"ddickinson-1"}

      Beautifully written, awesome use of words:)

      I agree with your general idea, overuse takes the sting out of the words. Lenny Bruce's whole deal was based on this He thought if we all walked around calling each other derogatory names and swearing at each other within a generation there would be no verbal way to insult people.

      But I tend to agree with what you said "We'll just make up new ones." People like to be mean.

      I rarely use profanity. So rarely, that when I do, people who know me sit up and pay attention. They recognize it for what it is: a warning. Like the rattles on a snake.

      Hard to make that point if your everyday conversation consists of ......well, I can't use those words here, can I?

      Nice rant Lordfluffy.

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        Reply#6 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:26 PM EDT
        {"commentId":7730387,"authorDomain":"darkknightjrk"}

        I think Lewis Black said it best about swear words:

        "These are words that adults use to express fustratation, rage, and anger--so they don't take a tire iron and beat the @!$%# out of somebody."

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        Reply#7 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:47 PM EDT
        {"commentId":7731554,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

        That was awesome though I'm pretty sure I stared at "See You Next Tuesday" for a solid minute before I got it.

        A friend of mine is fond of saying that certain individuals "Can't Understand Normal Thinking."

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        Reply#8 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT
        {"commentId":7731998,"authorDomain":"myriver"}
        I guess it's wrong to say I'm tired of profanity, but I am tired of it's over- and misuse.

        Great minds think alike. I wrote a rant today about profanity, too, lol!

        Truthfully, the single f* bombs here and there and the general {excrement} of the day doesn't get to me so bad. It all is insanely overused and mis-used these days., though. It appears that people are trying to overcompensate for their idiocy with attitude. (Whispers...that doesn't work so well....)

        Very good article, and very well-written. Thanks for the chuckles.

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        Reply#9 - Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":7745791,"authorDomain":"tyler"}

        10 deleted, Cludia spamming a date-a-billionaire site. Banned.

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        Reply#11 - Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:34 PM EDT
        {"commentId":8934189,"authorDomain":"firsty"}

        heheh. good stuff.

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          Reply#12 - Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:17 PM EDT
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